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Q1 FY27 concall · earnings callDishman Carbogen Amcis Limited

Despite a soft revenue quarter, management is focused on sales force expansion, tech transfers to India, and a significant debt refinancing to improve margins, projecting an optimistic future.

Positive tone3-minute briefPublished 4 days after the call

Numbers
MetricThis quarterChangeFive-quarter trend
Income from Operations₹677.6 Cr-4%
EBITDA₹60 Cr—
CDMO Segment Revenue₹534.3 Cr—
Marketable Molecules Revenue₹143.2 Cr—
Net Debt (ex-lease)CHF 153.6 million—
Financials

From filed quarterly results. YoY and QoQ compare each metric on the same accounting basis.

QuarterRevenueNet profit (PAT)Basic EPS
Q3 FY25₹682.34 Cr+4.8% YoY-13.5% QoQ₹4.63 CrTurned profitable YoY-86% QoQ₹0.30Turned positive YoY-85.8% QoQ
Q2 FY25₹789.04 Cr+34.5% YoY+50.6% QoQ₹33.09 CrTurned profitable YoYTurned profitable QoQ₹2.11Turned positive YoYTurned positive QoQ
Q1 FY25₹523.78 Cr-27.6% YoY-20% QoQ₹-77.57 CrTurned loss-making YoYLoss widened QoQ₹-4.95Turned negative YoYLoss/share widened QoQ
Q4 FY24₹654.71 Cr+5.8% YoY+0.6% QoQ₹-69.92 CrLoss narrowed YoYLoss widened QoQ₹-4.46Loss/share narrowed YoYLoss/share widened QoQ
Q3 FY24₹651.09 Cr+1.8% YoY+11% QoQ₹-59.63 CrTurned loss-making YoYLoss widened QoQ₹-3.80Turned negative YoYLoss/share widened QoQ
TL;DR
  • Revenue declined 4% YoY to INR 6,776 million due to a deferred order.
  • EBITDA dropped to INR 600 million from INR 1,406 million YoY.
  • Order income is picking up with increased tech transfer projects from Switzerland to India.
  • Marketable Molecules segment grew strongly to INR 1,432 million.
  • A new Chief Commercial Officer hired; sales teams being strengthened.
  • A promoter-led fundraise of up to CHF 200 million at 4% interest is in progress to refinance high-cost Indian debt.
Said on the call

“Dishman Carbogen Amcis is very well positioned to conquer additional new business. We are looking very optimistically to our future.”

Stephan Fritschi, CEO
From the Q&A
TopicWhat management said
FY27 GuidanceExpect single-digit revenue growth and EBITDA margin similar to or slightly higher than last year.
Debt RefinancingPromoter entity plans to raise up to CHF 200 million at 4% interest and infuse it as ECB into the Indian entity within 60-90 days to repay high-cost debt.
Profitability VolatilityAttributed QoQ lumpiness to B2B nature, customer shipment timing, and deferred orders; emphasized focus on increasing top line to improve EBITDA.
Indian Entity GrowthExpects 30-35% revenue growth and ~10% operating margin for the Indian entity in FY27, driven by tech transfers and new CDMO projects.
Project PipelineConfirmed one tech transfer contract signed and started, a second major transfer approved, and three more in advanced discussion; also highlighted increased CDMO RFPs.
GoodwillConsolidated goodwill exceeds INR 4,000 crores and is tested for impairment annually; only standalone Indian goodwill (~INR 550 crores) is amortized.
Guidance
  • Single-digit revenue growth for FY27.
  • EBITDA margin similar to last year for FY27.
  • Indian entity revenue to grow 30-35% in FY27.
  • Double-digit growth expected in French entity and India operations for FY28-29.
  • Net debt expected to be around CHF 140-150 million for FY27 (excluding promoter infusion).
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